Moses-support Digest, Vol 84, Issue 14

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Today's Topics:

1. Placeholders (Hieu Hoang)
2. Re: Placeholders (Nicola Bertoldi)
3. Re: Placeholders (Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:05:46 +0100
From: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: [Moses-support] Placeholders
To: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>, Achim Ruopp
<achim@taus.net>
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Hi all

Achim and I have been working on adding support for placeholders into
Moses. That is, replacing a number, date, or named entity with a symbol eg.
@num@, -date-, =named-entity=. We think it would be especially useful for
commercial users of Moses, and for people translating text with lots of
numbers, dates etc.

It is now supported in the Moses training and decoding pipeline. See the
following URL for more details.
http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures#ntoc60

--
Hieu Hoang
Research Associate
University of Edinburgh
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:33:49 +0000
From: Nicola Bertoldi <bertoldi@fbk.eu>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Placeholders
To: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Cc: moses-support support <moses-support@mit.edu>, Achim Ruopp
<achim@taus.net>
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Hi Hieu

I read the documentation
and you mention that you enable the exclusive mode of xml-input

I see few issues:

- you mention that you enable the exclusive mode of xml-input;
this can conflict with other usage of xml-input which instead require the inclusive mode.
do you have any comments on that?

- when you use the exclusive mode you force the translation of the span (@num@) with "100")
and other larger span including @num@ are not allowed
am I right?
If yes, what is the advantage of having phrase pairs including other words

- what is the meaning of "-placeholder-factor 1" ?


Nicola Bertoldi




On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Hieu Hoang wrote:

Hi all

Achim and I have been working on adding support for placeholders into Moses. That is, replacing a number, date, or named entity with a symbol eg. @num@, -date-, =named-entity=. We think it would be especially useful for commercial users of Moses, and for people translating text with lots of numbers, dates etc.

It is now supported in the Moses training and decoding pipeline. See the following URL for more details.
http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures#ntoc60

--
Hieu Hoang
Research Associate
University of Edinburgh
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:30:52 +0100
From: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Placeholders
To: Nicola Bertoldi <bertoldi@fbk.eu>
Cc: moses-support support <moses-support@mit.edu>, Achim Ruopp
<achim@taus.net>
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On 10 October 2013 13:33, Nicola Bertoldi <bertoldi@fbk.eu> wrote:

> Hi Hieu
>
> I read the documentation
> and you mention that you enable the exclusive mode of xml-input
>
> I see few issues:
>
> - you mention that you enable the exclusive mode of xml-input;
> this can conflict with other usage of xml-input which instead require
> the inclusive mode.
> do you have any comments on that?
>

it can be exclusive, inclusive or anything else except pass-through. It
just requires the XML handling to run


>
> - when you use the exclusive mode you force the translation of the span
> (@num@) with "100")
> and other larger span including @num@ are not allowed
> am I right?
> If yes, what is the advantage of having phrase pairs including other
> words
>

it doesn't create XML options, it just needs the XML parsing to run.


>
> - what is the meaning of "-placeholder-factor 1" ?
>
It stores the original text in the source factor 1. The placeholder symbol
is in the factor 0, or whatever the translation model was configured to use.


>
>
> Nicola Bertoldi
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Achim and I have been working on adding support for placeholders into
> Moses. That is, replacing a number, date, or named entity with a symbol eg.
> @num@, -date-, =named-entity=. We think it would be especially useful for
> commercial users of Moses, and for people translating text with lots of
> numbers, dates etc.
>
> It is now supported in the Moses training and decoding pipeline. See the
> following URL for more details.
> http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures#ntoc60
>
> --
> Hieu Hoang
> Research Associate
> University of Edinburgh
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
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--
Hieu Hoang
Research Associate
University of Edinburgh
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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