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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Implementation of pre-reordering for German and other
languages (Benjamin K?rner)
2. Re: Implementation of pre-reordering for German and other
languages (Hieu Hoang)
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 18:54:07 +0200
From: Benjamin K?rner <b.koerner@stud.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Implementation of pre-reordering for
German and other languages
To: <maxkhalilov@gmail.com>
Cc: 'moses-support' <moses-support@mit.edu>, mt-list@eamt.org
Message-ID: <00a801cf4f5d$55d4b570$017e2050$@stud.uni-heidelberg.de>
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Hi Maxim, hi all,
in an undergraduate class we were working on a automatic rule extraction and
source-side preordering system as a preprocessing step for English-
Japanese. At the moment I'm writing my BA thesis on this stuff. It works
with Moses and cdec and since it is just preprocessing it should work with
any other decoder.
If you exchange the parser and maybe some of the parameters it should work
for every language pair. We get BLEU score improvement in intrinsic
evaluation (right now with a 1,7 mio sentence eng-jap patent corpus).
The idea came from Genzel http://research.google.com/pubs/archive/36484.pdf
Also check our final presentation slides of our implemention @
https://www.cl.uni-heidelberg.de/studies/projects/poster/hitschler_koerner_o
hta2013.pdf
Best,
Benjamin
Von: moses-support-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:moses-support-bounces@mit.edu] Im
Auftrag von Milos Stanojevic
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2014 16:12
An: Hieu Hoang
Cc: moses-support; mt-list@eamt.org
Betreff: Re: [Moses-support] Implementation of pre-reordering for German and
other languages
Hi Maxim,
You can check this paper: http://aclweb.org/anthology//P/P11/P11-2067.pdf
<http://aclweb.org/anthology/P/P11/P11-2067.pdf>
It says: "CKK uses the Dubey and Keller (2003) parser, which is trained on
the Negra corpus (Skut et al., 1997)."
Regards,
Milos Stanojevic
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I don't know of an implementation that's available for download and I seem
to remember that the parser they used was extremely difficult to use or
compile.
If you find out more, please let everyone know
On 25 March 2014 17:07, Maxim Khalilov <maxkhalilov@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Moses community,
I am looking for a ready to use or easily customizable implementation of
pre-reordering algorithms for Moses? In particular, I'm interested in
language pairs with German as a source language and a variety of languages
as target, so probably the best solution is syntax based.
As a starting point, I would consider the algorithm described in (Collins et
al., 2005), but I don't know if there is an implementation available and
which parser it relies on.
Thanks for your help beforehand,
Maxim Khalilov
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 20:12:41 +0100
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Implementation of pre-reordering for
German and other languages
To: Benjamin K?rner <b.koerner@stud.uni-heidelberg.de>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>, "mt-list@eamt.org"
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Hi Benjamin
If you want to add your code to moses, send me your github username and I'll give you commit access
Sent while bumping into things
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 05:54 pm, Benjamin K?rner <b.koerner@stud.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim, hi all,
>
> in an undergraduate class we were working on a automatic rule extraction and source-side preordering system as a preprocessing step for English- Japanese. At the moment I'm writing my BA thesis on this stuff. It works with Moses and cdec and since it is just preprocessing it should work with any other decoder.
> If you exchange the parser and maybe some of the parameters it should work for every language pair. We get BLEU score improvement in intrinsic evaluation (right now with a 1,7 mio sentence eng-jap patent corpus).
>
> The idea came from Genzel http://research.google.com/pubs/archive/36484.pdf
>
> Also check our final presentation slides of our implemention @ https://www.cl.uni-heidelberg.de/studies/projects/poster/hitschler_koerner_ohta2013.pdf
>
>
> Best,
>
> Benjamin
>
>
> Von: moses-support-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:moses-support-bounces@mit.edu] Im Auftrag von Milos Stanojevic
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2014 16:12
> An: Hieu Hoang
> Cc: moses-support; mt-list@eamt.org
> Betreff: Re: [Moses-support] Implementation of pre-reordering for German and other languages
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> You can check this paper: http://aclweb.org/anthology//P/P11/P11-2067.pdf
> It says: "CKK uses the Dubey and Keller (2003) parser, which is trained on the Negra corpus (Skut et al., 1997)."
>
> Regards,
> Milos Stanojevic
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> I don't know of an implementation that's available for download and I seem to remember that the parser they used was extremely difficult to use or compile.
>
> If you find out more, please let everyone know
>
>
> On 25 March 2014 17:07, Maxim Khalilov <maxkhalilov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Moses community,
>
> I am looking for a ready to use or easily customizable implementation of pre-reordering algorithms for Moses? In particular, I'm interested in language pairs with German as a source language and a variety of languages as target, so probably the best solution is syntax based.
>
> As a starting point, I would consider the algorithm described in (Collins et al., 2005), but I don't know if there is an implementation available and which parser it relies on.
>
> Thanks for your help beforehand,
> Maxim Khalilov
>
>
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>
>
>
> --
> Hieu Hoang
> Research Associate
> University of Edinburgh
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
>
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