Moses-support Digest, Vol 92, Issue 20

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Transliteration Support in Moses (karan singla)
2. Re: Transliteration Support in Moses (Nadir Durrani)
3. Problem with mkcls Linux x32 (????????? ?????)
4. Re: Tools for Post-Editing that Preserve Alignments?
(Philipp Koehn)
5. Re: Mert-moses XML files (Philipp Koehn)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:42:34 +0530
From: karan singla <ksingla025@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Transliteration Support in Moses
To: Shahid Khan <tension.khan@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support@mit.edu
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I made an implementation of a transliteration package from English-2-Indian
Languages(including Hindi). I guess there are other packages also available.
link to package : https://github.com/ksingla025/Motech_Transliterate/

you can use it as a post-processing tool, for words which are OOV or
un-translated.

Regrds,
Karan


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Shahid Khan <tension.khan@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there a module to transliterate OOV words in Moses? Or any standalone
> transliteration toolkit to do this?
>
> I am trying to translate some English data into Hindi. Our system is based
> on the data provided for WMT this year and some additional in-domain data.
> But the number of OOVs is still massive. However, at least half of these
> could be transliterated.
>
> Regards,
> Shahid
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:15:54 +0100
From: Nadir Durrani <nadir.durrani@nu.edu.pk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Transliteration Support in Moses
To: moses-support@mit.edu
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Hi,

We have recently added a transliteration module in Moses. Here's how to use it:

http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures#ntoc5

When enabled the model will try to mine transliteration pairs from the
word-aligned parallel corpus and build a transliteration model over
the resulting transliteration training data. It is totally
unsupervised and language independent. You can find more details in
this paper.

http://aclweb.org/anthology//E/E14/E14-4029.pdf

Cheers,
Nadir

On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 5:31 PM, <moses-support-request@mit.edu> wrote:
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> 1. Error in Phrase-Table-Triangulation (Megha Jhunjhunwala)
> 2. Re: Error in Phrase-Table-Triangulation (Hieu Hoang)
> 3. Transliteration Support in Moses (Shahid Khan)
> 4. Mert-moses XML files (Cyrine NASRI)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:07:23 +0530
> From: Megha Jhunjhunwala <jjw.megha@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Moses-support] Error in Phrase-Table-Triangulation
> To: moses-support@mit.edu
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> Hello,
>
> I am trying to do phrase-table triangulation to generate a new
> phrase-table. But I am not being able to figure what the last 3 values in
> the phrase-table signify. ?????
> for ex :
> ???????? ????? ||| ????????? ????? ||| 0.00864127194755 8.337659958e-08
> 0.00432064057394 1.13306222125e-06 2.718 ||| 0-0 1-1 1-2 2-3 ||| 1 2 1
>
>
> What do the values 1 2 1 are for ?
>
> Also does moses use the alignments 0-0 and 1-1 etc to give translations.
>
> Thanks
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 12:47:15 +0100
> From: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Error in Phrase-Table-Triangulation
> To: Megha Jhunjhunwala <jjw.megha@gmail.com>
> Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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> the 1 2 1 are the counts. They are used for debug and can be ignored, they
> aren't used for decoder.
>
> the word alignments 0-0 and 1-1 are used by some new feature functions but
> not by the basic feature functions. If you don't want to create them, then
> leave them out
>
>
> On 8 June 2014 12:37, Megha Jhunjhunwala <jjw.megha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to do phrase-table triangulation to generate a new
>> phrase-table. But I am not being able to figure what the last 3 values in
>> the phrase-table signify. ?????
>> for ex :
>> ???????? ????? ||| ????????? ????? ||| 0.00864127194755 8.337659958e-08
>> 0.00432064057394 1.13306222125e-06 2.718 ||| 0-0 1-1 1-2 2-3 ||| 1 2 1
>>
>>
>> What do the values 1 2 1 are for ?
>>
>> Also does moses use the alignments 0-0 and 1-1 etc to give translations.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Megha
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> --
> Hieu Hoang
> Research Associate
> University of Edinburgh
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:19:03 +0100
> From: Shahid Khan <tension.khan@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Moses-support] Transliteration Support in Moses
> To: moses-support@mit.edu
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>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a module to transliterate OOV words in Moses? Or any standalone
> transliteration toolkit to do this?
>
> I am trying to translate some English data into Hindi. Our system is based
> on the data provided for WMT this year and some additional in-domain data.
> But the number of OOVs is still massive. However, at least half of these
> could be transliterated.
>
> Regards,
> Shahid
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:19:34 +0200
> From: Cyrine NASRI <cyrine.nasri@univ-lorraine.fr>
> Subject: [Moses-support] Mert-moses XML files
> To: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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> Hello,
>
> I have a question concern Mert-moses: Is it possible in Moses to do Mert on
> XML files?
> Is there any option to do this, or should i delete the XML tags manually
> before doing MERT?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Bests
>
> Cyrine
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:38:36 +0400
From: ????????? ????? <a.komin@bk.ru>
Subject: [Moses-support] Problem with mkcls Linux x32
To: moses-support@mit.edu
Message-ID: <1402303116.253545701@f350.i.mail.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm trying to run? on Linux (x32)

./mkcls -c50 -n2 -p./corpus/euro.de -V./corpus/de.vcb.classes opt

I have problems:

user-R560 training # ./mkcls -c50 -n2 -p./corpus/euro.de -V./corpus/de.vcb.classes opt
mkcls: /home/hieu/workspace/mgizapp/mgizapp/src/mkcls/StatVar.cpp:116: double StatVar::quantil(double): Assertion `index>=0&&index<n' failed.
Aborted


Can you help me?



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:41:14 -0400
From: Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Tools for Post-Editing that Preserve
Alignments?
To: Graham Neubig <neubig@is.naist.jp>
Cc: "<moses-support@mit.edu>" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Hi,

the CASMACAT variant of the Matecat/Casmacat CAT workbench would enable you
to track the changes, since it comes with logging of all the editing
events, so you can
see how the text was changed during post-editing.

http://www.casmacat.eu/index.php?n=Workbench.Workbench

You can check out the field trial data for an example for this:

http://www.casmacat.eu/index.php?n=Main.Downloads

-phi



On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Graham Neubig <neubig@is.naist.jp> wrote:

> Dear Moses Mailing List,
>
> I apologize in advance for the somewhat off-topic post, but I was hoping
> that someone might have an answer:
>
> We're looking to do some post-editing experiments where we need both the
> post-editing output and accurate alignments between the original system
> output and the post-edited text indicating which words/phrases were
> corrected into what. I have heard rumors that the NIST HTER tool was able
> to do this, but I don't have access to the tool, and I wasn't able to find
> any other available software that had this capability. Is anyone aware of a
> good UI that makes it possible to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Graham
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:44:14 -0400
From: Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Mert-moses XML files
To: Cyrine NASRI <cyrine.nasri@univ-lorraine.fr>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Hi,

it is probably best to remove XML markup during tuning.

-phi


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Cyrine NASRI <cyrine.nasri@univ-lorraine.fr
> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a question concern Mert-moses: Is it possible in Moses to do Mert
> on XML files?
> Is there any option to do this, or should i delete the XML tags manually
> before doing MERT?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Bests
>
> Cyrine
>
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