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Today's Topics:

1. Re: [Mt-list] MT software Help (Philipp Koehn)
2. my email (Eng HAR)
3. Re: When does this error message occur and how to fix it
(Raj Dabre)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:37:21 -0500
From: Philipp Koehn <phi@jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] [Mt-list] MT software Help
To: RAUL BARROS <raulbarros@terra.cl>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>, mt-list@eamt.org
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<CAAFADDBj5s97pH0cFH9aiYQHEM0HgFw-2_yeygRZWhagM5jKSQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

within the CASMACAT project we have developed a packaged
version of Moses with a novel CAT tool that is geared towards
individual translators, called the "CASMACAT Home Edition".

You can find some more information about it here:
http://www.casmacat.eu/index.php?n=Installation.HomePage

It is still a bit rough around the edges, but I'd be eager to
assist any effort to try it out.

-phi

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:52 AM, RAUL BARROS <raulbarros@terra.cl> wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
>
>
>
> I am a translator from Scandinavian languages (public tenders) into Spanish
> for several translation agencies and Scandinavian institutions
>
>
>
> Normally I have worked in ?direct translation?(manual so-to-say) from the
> above languages to Spanish
>
>
>
> However, some agencies increasingly request proficiency in MT software.
>
>
>
> I have tried several of those (Trados, Fluency, etc) and discovered that:
>
> 1) The linguistic DB they work with is no other tan Google and
> Microsoft DB
>
> 2) These DB are extremely limited with regard to Scandinavian languages
>
> 3) Their support is equal to null
>
> 4) In my experience, MT translating is (sofar) SLOWER tan otherwise!!
>
>
>
> I need some guidance in this
>
> Could you recommend or suggest one or several MT software, friendly, fast
> and with extensive techical DB accesss?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Ra?l Barros
>
> Las Ara?as 5805 d.132
>
> La Reina ? Santiago
>
> Chile
>
> CP.: 7850278
>
> Tel: +562-2277 7654
>
> Cel.: +5699-731 2043
>
> raulbarros@terra.cl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mt-list@eamt.org
> http://lists.eamt.org/mailman/listinfo/mt-list



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:51:03 +0800
From: Eng HAR <hamdiahmed919@gmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] my email
To: moses-support@mit.edu
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my email. is : hamdiahmed919@gmail.com

--
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*Hamdi Ahmed Rajeh*
*Hunan University - China*
*Phd Researcher*
*0086-15211108249*
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:56:15 +0900
From: Raj Dabre <prajdabre@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] When does this error message occur and
how to fix it
To: Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Hello,

I am attaching the jni error message I get when I run my Java program.
Thanks in advance for the help.


On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl>
wrote:

> I am waiting for some free time around Christmas. Let's see what I can
> cook up then. A critical mass of missing/half-implemented features and
> heisenbugs has accumulated in the compact phrase table. Before that
> hoewever, I would like to find some time to finally fix LM pruning,
> maybe next week. The phrase table is next on my list.
>
> W dniu 10.12.2014 o 21:37, Christian Hardmeier pisze:
> > I'm also a potential user of a standalone phrase table. I currently link
> my decoder against moses mostly because of the phrase table, and it's not
> always easy to do so.
> >
> > /Christian
> >
> > On 10.12.2014, at 15:27, Kenneth Heafield wrote:
> >
> >> I for one would like a version of phrase table querying that doesn't
> >> depend on the rest of Moses. For cleanliness and for portability
> >> (there's no reason this shouldn't kill cdec's phrase table for example).
> >>
> >> Kenneth
> >>
> >> On 12/10/14 13:39, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt wrote:
> >>> I am on it, sort of. I am waiting for Raj, to give me a stack trace. I
> >>> admit this code is basically abandoned, but let's see what we can do.
> >>>
> >>> W dniu 10.12.2014 o 19:35, Hieu Hoang pisze:
> >>>> I see. I'm not sure why the querying depends on StaticData. There may
> >>>> be some weights is wants to read. Only Marcin will know about that.
> >>>> You could try to debug yourself.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you intend to develop with Moses, I would urge you to update to the
> >>>> master branch of Moses. People forget how old code works and often
> >>>> can't answer your questions. The new code has also been cleaned up and
> >>>> rationalised. For instance, the 'translation system' functionality was
> >>>> problematic and has been deleted
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10 December 2014 at 15:53, Raj Dabre <prajdabre@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:prajdabre@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not using any moses.ini because I am not translating
> anything.
> >>>> My focus is on reading the phrase tables using a querying program
> >>>> written by Marcin.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk
> >>>> <mailto:Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you using the translation system functionality in v1? That
> >>>> seems to be the problem. Can I have a look @ the moses.ini.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10 December 2014 at 15:44, Raj Dabre <prajdabre@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:prajdabre@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am using an older version (V1).
> >>>> I am not running a translation experiment but using Java
> >>>> Native Interface to call C functions.
> >>>> Can you tell me what might be the problem ?
> >>>> I can surely say that the root of the problem is in the
> >>>> StaticData.cpp file.
> >>>> It seems that I am creating 2 instances of a class trying
> >>>> to access a background moses process.
> >>>> Does this sound about right ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Hieu Hoang
> >>>> <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk <mailto:Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> what version of Moses are you using? The current
> >>>> master branch on github, or an older version (version
> >>>> 1 etc)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Can I please see the moses.ini file you're using too
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10 December 2014 at 12:34, Raj Dabre
> >>>> <prajdabre@gmail.com <mailto:prajdabre@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am using a JNI interface to the CPP code that
> >>>> reads from binary phrase tables.
> >>>>
> >>>> I get an error like: Mismatch between number of
> >>>> word penalties and number of translation systems
> >>>>
> >>>> This happens when I create 2 objects for reading
> >>>> from 2 different tables.
> >>>>
> >>>> My understanding is that there is some problem
> >>>> with Static data but I am not sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone help me ?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raj Dabre.
> >>>> Research Student,
> >>>> Graduate School of Informatics,
> >>>> Kyoto University.
> >>>> CSE MTech, IITB., 2011-2014
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Moses-support mailing list
> >>>> Moses-support@mit.edu <mailto:
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> >>>>
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hieu Hoang
> >>>> Research Associate
> >>>> University of Edinburgh
> >>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raj Dabre.
> >>>> Research Student,
> >>>> Graduate School of Informatics,
> >>>> Kyoto University.
> >>>> CSE MTech, IITB., 2011-2014
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hieu Hoang
> >>>> Research Associate
> >>>> University of Edinburgh
> >>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raj Dabre.
> >>>> Research Student,
> >>>> Graduate School of Informatics,
> >>>> Kyoto University.
> >>>> CSE MTech, IITB., 2011-2014
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hieu Hoang
> >>>> Research Associate
> >>>> University of Edinburgh
> >>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Raj Dabre.
Research Student,
Graduate School of Informatics,
Kyoto University.
CSE MTech, IITB., 2011-2014
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