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Today's Topics:

1. Problem in Building build.log.gz (fatma elzahraa Eltaher)
2. Re: Constrained decoding (Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio)
3. Re: Constrained decoding (Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:31:14 -0800
From: fatma elzahraa Eltaher <fatmaeltaher@gmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] Problem in Building build.log.gz
To: Moses-support@mit.edu
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Dear All,

I have an error when try to install Moses and when I want to run the
following command to generate build.log.gz
/usr/bin/bjam -j8 --debug-configuration -d2 |gzip >build.log.gz
I get this error
mkdir: cannot create directory 'bin': File exists
so what I must do now?

thank you,



Fatma El-Zahraa El -Taher

Teaching Assistant at Computer & System department

Faculty of Engineering, Azhar University

Email : fatmaeltaher@gmail.com
mobile: +201141600434
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:44:05 +0000
From: Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio <jesus.g.rubio@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Constrained decoding
To: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Well, at least 'max_unknowns' seems to not work properly. I've tried
setting it to quite large values (and also -1) and I always obtain the same
result as using zero. E.g. using max_unknowns=-1:

Translating: what will they do ? CSSD lacks knowledge of both Voldemort and
candy bars in Prague
Line 0: Initialize search took 0.001 seconds total
Total translation options: 346
Total translation options pruned: 0
Line 0: Collecting options took 0.001 seconds at moses/Manager.cpp:117
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 6, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Line 0: Search took 0.074 seconds
total hypotheses considered = 8606
number popped from cube = 0
number not built = 0
number discarded early = 0
number discarded = 8516
number recombined = 2
number pruned = 0
time to collect opts 0.001 (0%)
create hyps 0.009 (11%)
estimate score 0.007 (9%)
calc lm 0.000 (0%)
other hyp score 0.018 (24%)
set up cubes 0.000 (0%)
manage cubes 0.000 (0%)
manage stacks 0.008 (11%)
other 0.032 (41%)
total source words = 16
words deleted = 0 ()
words inserted = 0 ()
NO BEST TRANSLATION

2015-01-20 14:27 GMT+00:00 Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>:

> max-unknowns = like the edit distance. The maximum number of non-matching
> words
>
> negate = instead of allowing only translations that match the reference,
> allow only translations that do NOT match
>
> soft = don't throw away non-matching translations, just penalise it.
>
> I was basically messing around, I didn't check the results very carefully.
> there may be bugs.
>
>
> On 20 January 2015 at 14:10, Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio <jesus.g.rubio@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have some questions about the constrained decoding feature implemented
>> in moses, (ConstrainedDecoding).
>>
>> Which is the meaning of the 'max-unknowns' parameter?
>>
>> I understand 'max-unknowns' as something like the maximum edit distance
>> allowed between the final translation and the reference, i.e the maximum
>> number of words in the final translation that are allowed to be different
>> to the reference. Is this interpretation correct?
>>
>> Also, what is the interpretation of the 'negate' and 'soft' parameters?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> --
>> Jes?s
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moses-support mailing list
>> Moses-support@mit.edu
>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Hieu Hoang
> Research Associate
> University of Edinburgh
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
>


--
Jes?s
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:48:19 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Constrained decoding
To: Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio <jesus.g.rubio@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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ah, looking at the code, max-unknowns allows a certain number of OOV, not
edit distance


On 20 January 2015 at 14:44, Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio <jesus.g.rubio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, at least 'max_unknowns' seems to not work properly. I've tried
> setting it to quite large values (and also -1) and I always obtain the same
> result as using zero. E.g. using max_unknowns=-1:
>
> Translating: what will they do ? CSSD lacks knowledge of both Voldemort
> and candy bars in Prague
> Line 0: Initialize search took 0.001 seconds total
> Total translation options: 346
> Total translation options pruned: 0
> Line 0: Collecting options took 0.001 seconds at moses/Manager.cpp:117
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 6, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Stack sizes: 1, 12, 24, 22, 12, 5, 3, 4, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
> Line 0: Search took 0.074 seconds
> total hypotheses considered = 8606
> number popped from cube = 0
> number not built = 0
> number discarded early = 0
> number discarded = 8516
> number recombined = 2
> number pruned = 0
> time to collect opts 0.001 (0%)
> create hyps 0.009 (11%)
> estimate score 0.007 (9%)
> calc lm 0.000 (0%)
> other hyp score 0.018 (24%)
> set up cubes 0.000 (0%)
> manage cubes 0.000 (0%)
> manage stacks 0.008 (11%)
> other 0.032 (41%)
> total source words = 16
> words deleted = 0 ()
> words inserted = 0 ()
> NO BEST TRANSLATION
>
> 2015-01-20 14:27 GMT+00:00 Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>:
>
>> max-unknowns = like the edit distance. The maximum number of non-matching
>> words
>>
>> negate = instead of allowing only translations that match the reference,
>> allow only translations that do NOT match
>>
>> soft = don't throw away non-matching translations, just penalise it.
>>
>> I was basically messing around, I didn't check the results very
>> carefully. there may be bugs.
>>
>>
>> On 20 January 2015 at 14:10, Jes?s Gonz?lez Rubio <
>> jesus.g.rubio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have some questions about the constrained decoding feature implemented
>>> in moses, (ConstrainedDecoding).
>>>
>>> Which is the meaning of the 'max-unknowns' parameter?
>>>
>>> I understand 'max-unknowns' as something like the maximum edit distance
>>> allowed between the final translation and the reference, i.e the maximum
>>> number of words in the final translation that are allowed to be different
>>> to the reference. Is this interpretation correct?
>>>
>>> Also, what is the interpretation of the 'negate' and 'soft' parameters?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>> --
>>> Jes?s
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moses-support mailing list
>>> Moses-support@mit.edu
>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hieu Hoang
>> Research Associate
>> University of Edinburgh
>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jes?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Moses-support mailing list
> Moses-support@mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>
>


--
Hieu Hoang
Research Associate
University of Edinburgh
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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