Moses-support Digest, Vol 104, Issue 56

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Major bug found in Moses (Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt)
2. Re: Major bug found in Moses (Lane Schwartz)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:41:35 +0200
From: Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Major bug found in Moses
To: amittai axelrod <amittai@umiacs.umd.edu>
Cc: moses-support@mit.edu, Koehn <phi@jhu.edu>, philipp
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That's actually presentation-worthy material :) I have to note that down
somewhere.

W dniu 2015-06-19 16:23, amittai axelrod napisa?(a):

> speaking of cobbling together a good translation from imperfect parts:
>
> google:
>
> A motorist heard on the radio the announcement: "Caution Caution On the N9 you will encounter a ghost driver Please drive far right and do not overtake!.!"
> The driver: "What do you mean a dozens dozens?!""
>
> microsoft:
>
> "A motorist hears the announcement on the radio: 'warning! Caution! On the N9, a (s) satisfies you. Go quite right and not overtake!"
> The car driver: "what do you mean one? Dozens! Dozens!"
>
> :)
> ~amittai
>
> On 6/19/15 10:19, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt wrote:
>
>> German joke: Ein Autofahrer h?rt im Radio die Durchsage: "Achtung! Achtung! Auf der N9 kommt Ihnen ein Geisterfahrer entgegen. Fahren Sie bitte ganz rechts und ?berholen Sie nicht!" Der Autofahrer: "Was hei?t hier einer? Dutzende! Dutzende!" Wdniu 2015-06-19 16:12, Read, James C napisa?(a):


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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:10:31 -0500
From: Lane Schwartz <dowobeha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Major bug found in Moses
To: "Read, James C" <jcread@essex.ac.uk>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>, Philipp Koehn
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James,

> 1) Acknowledging that the search algorithm performs poorly with no LM,
> tuning or pruning despite the fact the search space clearly contains high
> quality translations
>
Yes. We all acknowledge this. If you have a better technique, that's great.
Show that it's better. Your paper does not do so.

2) to a public display of en-masse reluctance to acknowledge that such is
> an undesirable quality of the system
>
Yes, this is undesirable. If you have a better technique, that's great.
Show that it's better. Your paper does not do so.


> 3) to resorting to censorship not only in the literature but also on a
> public mailing list rather than acknowledge point 2.
>
No one is trying to censor you in the literature. You wrote a paper that
got rejected. Lots of papers get rejected. Lots of GOOD papers get
rejected. The fact that yours got rejected does not mean that you're being
censored.

No one is trying to censor you on this list. We are simply requesting that
you conduct yourself like a well-mannered adult engaged in scientific
research.


By the way, your frequent mentions of investors are very much a non
sequitur. You may be looking for investors, and that's fine if you are. You
may want to keep in mind that not everyone is. Many of us are interested in
this as a field of scientific enquiry.


Lane
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