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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Exception when exiting moses (Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt)
2. Re: placeholder error with compact phrase-table (Tom Hoar)
3. Re: Exception when exiting moses (Kenneth Heafield)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:34:07 +0200
From: Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Exception when exiting moses
To: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <5586BD4F.6090303@amu.edu.pl>
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Too bad, so I need to fix it myself. Thanks for the feedback. That
explains how no one else is complaining.

On 21.06.2015 15:27, Hieu Hoang wrote:
> with compact, from today's checkin
>
> Hieu Hoang
> Researcher
> New York University, Abu Dhabi
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 21 June 2015 at 17:20, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl
> <mailto:junczys@amu.edu.pl>> wrote:
>
> With the compact reordering table or anything else from Compact* ?
>
> On 21.06.2015 15:19, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>
> i'm using my latest master fork with no problems
>
> Hieu Hoang
> Researcher
> New York University, Abu Dhabi
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 21 June 2015 at 17:02, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt
> <junczys@amu.edu.pl <mailto:junczys@amu.edu.pl>
> <mailto:junczys@amu.edu.pl <mailto:junczys@amu.edu.pl>>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is anyone else getting exceptions when moses exits with
> the latest
> master? It seems to be happening in my reordering table
> and breaks
> MERT.
> Wasn't me though :)
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:40:57 +0700
From: Tom Hoar <tahoar@precisiontranslationtools.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] placeholder error with compact
phrase-table
To: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <5586BEE9.7010202@precisiontranslationtools.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Marcin,

Sorry, I lost track. Was this issue with placeholders ever resolved? If
so, I'd like to test the missing output using -xml-input again.

Thanks,
Tom


On 5/29/2015 7:12 AM, Tom Hoar wrote:
> Back in March (see copy below), I reported unexpected output using the
> -print-alignment-info option. To review, the problem was sentences
> disappeared from STDOUT when using the -print-alignment-info option.
> More accurately, a zero-length string with the newline character
> output for 2 of five test sentences. I got sidetracked and never
> followed up and never shared the models.
>
> I experienced these results just after I implemented/used the compact
> phrase-table. Is it possible that this is another issue with compact
> format? Sorry, but I don't have the examples anymore.
>
> Tom
>
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 01:45:47 +0200
> From: Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt<junczys@amu.edu.pl>
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] placeholder error with compact phrase-table
> To:moses-support@mit.edu
> Message-ID:<5567A8AB.108@amu.edu.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Hi,
> Oops, missed that post, should set-up some filter based on "compact".
> Looks like another alignment-based error in my pt. I never used place
> holders before, so I never came across this. Can you somehow share stuff
> so I can reproduce this?
> Best,
> Marcin
>
> W dniu 29.05.2015 o 01:40, Hieu Hoang pisze:
>> The placeholders need word alignment info to work. What is the exact
>> command u used to binarise? Are you sure the text pt had alignment info?
>>
>> On 27 May 2015 12:35, "Vito Mandorino"
>> <vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com
>> <mailto:vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm getting some troubles when using placeholders together with
>> compact phrase table.
>> If I decode the segment
>>
>> usd <ne translation="@num@" entity="717">@num@</ne> mn worth
>> of stocks
>>
>>
>> with compact phrase table I get the error
>>
>> Line 0: Search took 0.108 seconds
>> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'util::Exception'
>> what(): moses/IOWrapper.cpp:273 in std::map<long unsigned
>> int, const Moses::Factor*>
>> Moses::IOWrapper::GetPlaceholders(const Moses::Hypothesis&,
>> Moses::FactorType) threw util::Exception because
>> `targetPos.size() != 1'.
>> Placeholder should be aligned to 1, and only 1, word
>>
>>
>>
>> four times out of 13 different compactifications of the phrase
>> table (the remaining 9 work fine). If I decode with non-compact
>> phrase-table everything works fine. What could be the reason of
>> the error? Is it possible that this is due to small random
>> information losses when creating the compact tables?
>>
>> Thank you and best regards,
>>
>> Vito Mandorino
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] -print-alignment-info option
> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:58:46 +0000
> From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
> To: Tom Hoar <tahoar@precisiontranslationtools.com>
> CC: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
>
>
>
> You're saying it gives a different translation depending on whether
> -print-alignment-info is used or not? That would be a very strange
> behaviour. Which phrase-table are you using?
>
> If you can share your model files, i'll take a look at it.
>
> Hieu Hoang
> Research Associate (until March 2015)
> University of Edinburgh
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 16 March 2015 at 02:53, Tom Hoar
> <tahoar@precisiontranslationtools.com
> <mailto:tahoar@precisiontranslationtools.com>> wrote:
>
> This is my first time using the '-print-alignment-info' option and I'm
> getting some unexpected results.
>
> In a set of five sentences, when using no option or
> '-report-segmentation' or '-report-segmentation-enriched', all five
> sentence translations are output with respective alignment info. With
> the '-print-alignment-info' option, two sentence translations are
> output
> as zero-length strings.
>
> Is this what is meant when the help prompt says: "Word-to-word
> alignments are taken from the phrase table if any"?
>
> When no word-to-word alignment info is in the phrase table, I would
> expect the translated output followed by " ||| " and then nothing.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:44:40 -0400
From: Kenneth Heafield <moses@kheafield.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Exception when exiting moses
To: moses-support@mit.edu
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What exception? I can haz stack trace?

On 06/21/2015 09:02 AM, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt wrote:
> Hi,
> is anyone else getting exceptions when moses exits with the latest
> master? It seems to be happening in my reordering table and breaks MERT.
> Wasn't me though :)
>
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