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Today's Topics:

1. GUI to Moses (Marwa Refaie)
2. Re: GUI to Moses (Hieu Hoang)
3. Re: Doubts on Multiple Decoding Paths (Anoop (?????))
4. Re: Doubts on Multiple Decoding Paths (Rajen Chatterjee)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:06:39 +0000
From: Marwa Refaie <basmallah@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] GUI to Moses
To: Moses <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Hello
any one have a guide to design a demo or GUI calling Moses with my own built language model & translation model , to translate new sentences ??

Marwa N. Refaie


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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:15:46 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] GUI to Moses
To: Marwa Refaie <basmallah@hotmail.com>
Cc: Moses <moses-support@mit.edu>
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there are various ways of doing it.

There is a windows-based gui in the directory
mingw/MosesGUI

Hieu Hoang
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 21 December 2015 at 20:06, Marwa Refaie <basmallah@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Hello
>
> any one have a guide to design a demo or GUI calling Moses with my own
> built language model & translation model , to translate new sentences ??
>
> *Marwa N. Refaie*
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:22:13 +0530
From: Anoop (?????) <anoop.kunchukuttan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Doubts on Multiple Decoding Paths
To: Michael Denkowski <michael.j.denkowski@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>, Philipp Koehn <phi@jhu.edu>
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Thanks for your inputs. I plan to compare these methods, and will share the
results on the group.

Regards,
Anoop

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Michael Denkowski <
michael.j.denkowski@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Anoop,
>
> Confirming that your reading of "union" is in fact how it works. If you
> want each phrase to be scored by all tables without having to worry about
> making sure every phrase is in every table, I you can use
> PhraseDictionaryGroup with default-average-others=true. This multiplies
> the size of the phrase feature set by the number of models, so I recommend
> running mer-moses.pl with --batch-mira.
>
> Best,
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Philipp Koehn <phi@jhu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> that sounds right.
>>
>> The "union" option is fairly new, developed by Michael Denkowski.
>> I am not aware of any empirical study of the different methods,
>> so I'd be curious to see what you find.
>>
>> -phi
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:35 AM, Anoop (?????) <
>> anoop.kunchukuttan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand the multiple decoding paths feature in Moses.
>>>
>>> The documentation (http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Advanced.Models#ntoc7)
>>> describes 3 methods: both, either and union
>>>
>>> The following is my understanding of the options. Please let me know if
>>> it is correct:
>>>
>>>
>>> - With *both* option, the constituent phrases of the target
>>> hypothesis come from both tables (since they are shared) and are scored
>>> with both the tables.
>>> - With *either* option, all the constituent phrases of a target
>>> hypothesis come from a single table, but different hypothesis can use
>>> different tables. Each hypothesis is scored using one table only. I did not
>>> understand the " additional options are collected from the other tables"
>>> bit in the documentation.
>>> - With *union* option, the constituent phrases of a target
>>> hypothesis come from different tables and are scored using scores from all
>>> the tables. Use 0 if the option doesn't appear in some table, unless the
>>> *default-average-others=true* option is used.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anoop.
>>>
>>> --
>>> I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow
>>> mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors
>>> and to retrace my steps.
>>>
>>> http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
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>>>
>>
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--
I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow
mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors
and to retrace my steps.

http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:52:46 +0100
From: Rajen Chatterjee <rajen.k.chatterjee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Doubts on Multiple Decoding Paths
To: Anoop (?????) <anoop.kunchukuttan@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Thanks Anoop, for the question. I too have the same doubt as yours.

So to repeate, your question was:
"With *either* option, all the constituent phrases of a target hypothesis
come from a single table, but different hypothesis can use different
tables. Each hypothesis is scored using one table only. I did not
understand the* " additional options are collected from the other tables" *bit
in the documentation. "

So, if each hypothesis is scored using a single table then why it is said
that "additional options are collected from other tables". It sounds
somewhat contradicting or maybe I am missing something.

Please let us know if anybody knows what it mean.

Thanks a lot.


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Anoop (?????) <anoop.kunchukuttan@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks for your inputs. I plan to compare these methods, and will share
> the results on the group.
>
> Regards,
> Anoop
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Michael Denkowski <
> michael.j.denkowski@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anoop,
>>
>> Confirming that your reading of "union" is in fact how it works. If you
>> want each phrase to be scored by all tables without having to worry about
>> making sure every phrase is in every table, I you can use
>> PhraseDictionaryGroup with default-average-others=true. This multiplies
>> the size of the phrase feature set by the number of models, so I recommend
>> running mer-moses.pl with --batch-mira.
>>
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Philipp Koehn <phi@jhu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> that sounds right.
>>>
>>> The "union" option is fairly new, developed by Michael Denkowski.
>>> I am not aware of any empirical study of the different methods,
>>> so I'd be curious to see what you find.
>>>
>>> -phi
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:35 AM, Anoop (?????) <
>>> anoop.kunchukuttan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to understand the multiple decoding paths feature in Moses.
>>>>
>>>> The documentation (http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Advanced.Models#ntoc7)
>>>> describes 3 methods: both, either and union
>>>>
>>>> The following is my understanding of the options. Please let me know if
>>>> it is correct:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - With *both* option, the constituent phrases of the target
>>>> hypothesis come from both tables (since they are shared) and are scored
>>>> with both the tables.
>>>> - With *either* option, all the constituent phrases of a target
>>>> hypothesis come from a single table, but different hypothesis can use
>>>> different tables. Each hypothesis is scored using one table only. I did not
>>>> understand the " additional options are collected from the other tables"
>>>> bit in the documentation.
>>>> - With *union* option, the constituent phrases of a target
>>>> hypothesis come from different tables and are scored using scores from all
>>>> the tables. Use 0 if the option doesn't appear in some table, unless the
>>>> *default-average-others=true* option is used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anoop.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow
>>>> mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors
>>>> and to retrace my steps.
>>>>
>>>> http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Moses-support mailing list
>>>> Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow
> mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors
> and to retrace my steps.
>
> http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>


--
-Regards,
Rajen Chatterjee.
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