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Today's Topics:

1. Re: error while creating compact reordering table
(Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt)
2. Re: Segmentation fault on hierarchical model with moses in
server mode (Barry Haddow)
3. query regarding system configuration and adding other methods
to moses (rmogla)
4. Re: Moses-support post from jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca requires
approval (Jasneet Sabharwal)
5. Re: Moses-support post from jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca requires
approval (Jasneet Sabharwal)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:17:12 +0100
From: Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <junczys@amu.edu.pl>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] error while creating compact reordering
table
To: moses-support@mit.edu
Message-ID: <56AB11F8.8070009@amu.edu.pl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,
first check if it's actually there, for instance, post a directory
listing of that path

/root/working/binarised-model/

You can also try to add ".minlexr" for the reordering model and
".minphr" for the phrase table, maybe that helps. I am currently
confused which version is the right way with most current moses.

BTW. It's generally not a good idea to do stuff like that as root.
Cheers,
Marcin

On 29.01.2016 07:33, sushant khulge wrote:
> Hello Sir,
>
> I was installing moses and during the creating compact phrase table
> and reordering table i came across an error 'Can't read
> /root/working/binarised-model/reordering-table'.
> I followed the mannual back but still the same error.
>
> Please find attachments of the error and moses.ini file with the mail.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:13:29 +0000
From: Barry Haddow <bhaddow@staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Segmentation fault on hierarchical model
with moses in server mode
To: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>, ugermann@inf.ed.ac.uk, Martin
Baumg?rtner <martin.baumgaertner@star-group.net>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <56AB4959.7010600@staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
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Hi

When I run command-line Moses, I get the output below - i.e. no best
translation. The server crashes for me since it does not check for the
null pointer, but the command-line version does.

I think there should be a translation for this example.

cheers - Barry

[gna]bhaddow: echo 'dies ist ein haus' | ~/moses.new/bin/moses -f
string-to-tree/moses.ini
Defined parameters (per moses.ini or switch):
config: string-to-tree/moses.ini
cube-pruning-pop-limit: 1000
feature: KENLM name=LM factor=0 order=3 num-features=1
path=lm/europarl.srilm.gz WordPenalty UnknownWordPenalty
PhraseDictionaryMemory input-factor=0 output-factor=0
path=string-to-tree/rule-table num-features=1 table-limit=20
input-factors: 0
inputtype: 3
mapping: 0 T 0
max-chart-span: 20 1000
non-terminals: X S
search-algorithm: 3
translation-details: translation-details.log
weight: WordPenalty0= 0 LM= 0.5 PhraseDictionaryMemory0= 0.5
line=KENLM name=LM factor=0 order=3 num-features=1 path=lm/europarl.srilm.gz
Loading the LM will be faster if you build a binary file.
Reading lm/europarl.srilm.gz
----5---10---15---20---25---30---35---40---45---50---55---60---65---70---75---80---85---90---95--100
**The ARPA file is missing <unk>. Substituting log10 probability -100.000.
**************************************************************************************************
FeatureFunction: LM start: 0 end: 0
line=WordPenalty
FeatureFunction: WordPenalty0 start: 1 end: 1
line=UnknownWordPenalty
FeatureFunction: UnknownWordPenalty0 start: 2 end: 2
line=PhraseDictionaryMemory input-factor=0 output-factor=0
path=string-to-tree/rule-table num-features=1 table-limit=20
FeatureFunction: PhraseDictionaryMemory0 start: 3 end: 3
Loading LM
Loading WordPenalty0
Loading UnknownWordPenalty0
Loading PhraseDictionaryMemory0
Start loading text phrase table. Moses format : [3.038] seconds
Reading string-to-tree/rule-table
----5---10---15---20---25---30---35---40---45---50---55---60---65---70---75---80---85---90---95--100
****************************************************************************************************
max-chart-span: 20
Created input-output object : [3.041] seconds
Line 0: Initialize search took 0.000 seconds total
Translating: <s> dies ist ein haus </s> ||| [0,0]=X (1) [0,1]=X (1)
[0,2]=X (1) [0,3]=X (1) [0,4]=X (1) [0,5]=X (1) [1,1]=X (1) [1,2]=X (1)
[1,3]=X (1) [1,4]=X (1) [1,5]=X (1) [2,2]=X (1) [2,3]=X (1) [2,4]=X (1)
[2,5]=X (1) [3,3]=X (1) [3,4]=X (1) [3,5]=X (1) [4,4]=X (1) [4,5]=X (1)
[5,5]=X (1)

0 1 2 3 4 5
0 1 2 2 1 0
0 0 0 2 0
0 0 4 0
0 0 0
0 0
0
Line 0: Additional reporting took 0.000 seconds total
Line 0: Translation took 0.002 seconds total
Translation took 0.000 seconds
Name:moses VmPeak:74024 kB VmRSS:11084 kB RSSMax:36832 kB
user:2.972 sys:0.048 CPU:3.020 real:3.058


On 29/01/16 00:40, Hieu Hoang wrote:
> If it works ok on the command line but crashes when using the server,
> then that suggest a server issue.
>
> I don't know much about the server code, to be honest.
>


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 21:14:43 +0530
From: rmogla <rmogla01@gmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] query regarding system configuration and
adding other methods to moses
To: moses-support@mit.edu
Message-ID:
<CAJUS128aXK1Ex=8nJy2X1NxAyFxjJCbPzkDSh6Le4T0_haytUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello,
I am a new user of moses, and trying to install moses and giza++.

1. Please suggest what is the minimum system configuration(RAM, memory
etc.) to use moses.

2.Can we add another non statistical alignment model instead of giza++ to
moses.

3. As per my understanding we can train the system on the basis of varying
the phrase length and order of language model, is my understanding correct.

Apart from these two things on what basis we can modify moses or is it
possible and feasible to add some new methods probably a non statistical
algorithm to moses? If yes in which language the codes should be written?

Thanking in advance.
Best Regards
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:07:44 -0500
From: Jasneet Sabharwal <jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support post from
jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca requires approval
To: amittai axelrod <amittai@umiacs.umd.edu>
Cc: moses-support@mit.edu
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Thanks Amittai, I?ll check it out.
> On Jan 23, 2016, at 1:10 PM, amittai axelrod <amittai@umiacs.umd.edu> wrote:
>
> whoops, forgot link. see "class-based models" section in:
> http://kheafield.com/code/kenlm/estimation/
>
> ~amittai
>
>
> On 1/23/16 13:08, amittai axelrod wrote:
>>> The reason for using Witten-Bell was because
>>> Kneser-Ney wasn?t able to cope up with the counts being generated for
>>> coarse language models.
>>
>> that is indeed an annoyance with kndiscount. however, you can now try
>> using "--discount_fallback" with kenlm. it works for me, even with tens
>> of classes.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ~amittai
>>
>> On 1/23/16 07:11, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>> Thanks Ken & Hieu,
>>>
>>> I?ll give KenLM a try. The reason for using Witten-Bell was because
>>> Kneser-Ney wasn?t able to cope up with the counts being generated for
>>> coarse language models. Sp, I?ll train my LM using SRILM with ngram
>>> order 8 and WB smoothing and use KenLM with order 8 in Moses.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jasneet
>>>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 3:38 AM, Kenneth Heafield <moses@kheafield.com
>>>> <mailto:moses@kheafield.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> You can compile with --max-kenlm-order=8 or change the setting in the
>>>> Eclipse files.
>>>>
>>>> The ARPA file format is interchangeable. You can build an ARPA using
>>>> SRILM and Witten-Bell (though Bob Moore once called me out at a
>>>> conference for suggesting that as an alternative to Kneser-Ney) then
>>>> load with KenLM.
>>>>
>>>> Kenneth
>>>>
>>>> On 01/23/2016 05:39 AM, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Hieu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I?m using the eclipse project for development. I followed your video to
>>>>> set it up and I have linked the srilm and irstlm installations in the
>>>>> root directory of mosesdecoder. I first tried to compile the project,
>>>>> but neither the SRILM nor the IRSTLM LM cpp files get compiled. So, I
>>>>> added LM_IRST and included "${workspace_loc}/../../irstlm/include? path
>>>>> in the C/C++ Build settings of the project. But I still cannot compile
>>>>> IRST.cpp.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I?m not using the included KenLM is because my new feature
>>>>> function requires an 8-gram language model with witten bell smoothing,
>>>>> which is provided by SRILM. As, IRSTLM can use SRILM generated language
>>>>> models, so I decided to call IRSTLM code inside my feature function to
>>>>> get the score for a phrase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any pointers on how can I debug the eclipse project with IRSTLM/SRILM?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jasneet
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: When I compile the whole project using "./bjam -j4
>>>>> ?with-boost=<absolute path to boost> ?with-cmph=<absolute path to cmph>
>>>>> ?with-irstlm=<absolute path to irstlm>?, it successfully compiles
>>>>> without any errors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe Nadir Durrani's OSM uses KenLM inside it. You can look in
>>>>>> moses/FF/OSM-Feature
>>>>>> for tips
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/16 00:31, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Hieu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One last question. What do you think is the best way to load the
>>>>>>> SRILM language model inside my custom feature function and to get a
>>>>>>> score for a string that my feature function created?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,beli
>>>>>>> Jasneet
>>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 3:45 AM, Hieu Hoang
>>>>>>>> <<mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>hieuhoang@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/01/16 04:05, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Hieu,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had subscribed to the mailing list and I?m getting the digest,
>>>>>>>>> but not sure why my email went for your approval. When I get the
>>>>>>>>> alignments from GetAlignTerm(), the index of the source word is
>>>>>>>>> relative? To get the index in the source sentence, I?m assuming
>>>>>>>>> that I would need to get the starting position of the source words
>>>>>>>>> from CurrSourceWordsRange().GetStartPos() from current hypothesis
>>>>>>>>> and offset the source alignment index with that value?
>>>>>>>> yep. And to get the index in the target sentence, use
>>>>>>>> GetCurrTargetWordsRange().GetStartPos()
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Jasneet
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 3:43 AM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> please subscribe to the Moses mailing list before posting to it.
>>>>>>>>>> You can subscribe here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admin/moses-support
>>>>>>>>>> To answer you question - the target phrase has a method called
>>>>>>>>>> GetAlignTerm()
>>>>>>>>>> that contains the alignment for terminals. This comes from the
>>>>>>>>>> phrase-table, and ultimately from the word alignment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>>>>>> Subject:Moses-support post from jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca> requires
>>>>>>>>>> approval
>>>>>>>>>> Date:Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:36:50 -0500
>>>>>>>>>> From:moses-support-owner@mit.edu
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:moses-support-owner@mit.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> To:moses-support-owner@mit.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
>>>>>>>>>> following mailing list posting:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> List: Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>>>>>>>> From: jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Getting alignments for current hypothesis in phrase
>>>>>>>>>> based model
>>>>>>>>>> Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At your convenience, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admindb/moses-support
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to approve or deny the request.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <ForwardedMessage.eml><ForwardedMessage.eml>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Hieu Hoang
>>>>>>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Hieu Hoang
>>>>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:10:00 -0500
From: Jasneet Sabharwal <jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support post from
jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca requires approval
To: Kenneth Heafield <moses@kheafield.com>
Cc: moses-support@mit.edu
Message-ID: <E180F501-0320-4907-9873-E12804C25A13@sfu.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Hi Ken,

I have a language model trained on word classes. So, it is trained on sentences like ?10 15 21 1 23?. I now have a feature function that generates a phrase ?1 7 10 20?. I?ve been able to load my language model in my feature function. How can I get the score from my language model for this phrase?

Regards,
Jasneet
> On Jan 23, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Jasneet Sabharwal <jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken & Hieu,
>
> I?ll give KenLM a try. The reason for using Witten-Bell was because Kneser-Ney wasn?t able to cope up with the counts being generated for coarse language models. Sp, I?ll train my LM using SRILM with ngram order 8 and WB smoothing and use KenLM with order 8 in Moses.
>
> Best,
> Jasneet
>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 3:38 AM, Kenneth Heafield <moses@kheafield.com <mailto:moses@kheafield.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can compile with --max-kenlm-order=8 or change the setting in the
>> Eclipse files.
>>
>> The ARPA file format is interchangeable. You can build an ARPA using
>> SRILM and Witten-Bell (though Bob Moore once called me out at a
>> conference for suggesting that as an alternative to Kneser-Ney) then
>> load with KenLM.
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>> On 01/23/2016 05:39 AM, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>> Thanks Hieu.
>>>
>>> I?m using the eclipse project for development. I followed your video to
>>> set it up and I have linked the srilm and irstlm installations in the
>>> root directory of mosesdecoder. I first tried to compile the project,
>>> but neither the SRILM nor the IRSTLM LM cpp files get compiled. So, I
>>> added LM_IRST and included "${workspace_loc}/../../irstlm/include? path
>>> in the C/C++ Build settings of the project. But I still cannot compile
>>> IRST.cpp.
>>>
>>> The reason I?m not using the included KenLM is because my new feature
>>> function requires an 8-gram language model with witten bell smoothing,
>>> which is provided by SRILM. As, IRSTLM can use SRILM generated language
>>> models, so I decided to call IRSTLM code inside my feature function to
>>> get the score for a phrase.
>>>
>>> Any pointers on how can I debug the eclipse project with IRSTLM/SRILM?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jasneet
>>>
>>> PS: When I compile the whole project using "./bjam -j4
>>> ?with-boost=<absolute path to boost> ?with-cmph=<absolute path to cmph>
>>> ?with-irstlm=<absolute path to irstlm>?, it successfully compiles
>>> without any errors.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I believe Nadir Durrani's OSM uses KenLM inside it. You can look in
>>>> moses/FF/OSM-Feature
>>>> for tips
>>>>
>>>> On 20/01/16 00:31, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Hieu.
>>>>>
>>>>> One last question. What do you think is the best way to load the
>>>>> SRILM language model inside my custom feature function and to get a
>>>>> score for a string that my feature function created?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,beli
>>>>> Jasneet
>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 3:45 AM, Hieu Hoang
>>>>>> <<mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>>hieuhoang@gmail.com <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/01/16 04:05, Jasneet Sabharwal wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Hieu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had subscribed to the mailing list and I?m getting the digest,
>>>>>>> but not sure why my email went for your approval. When I get the
>>>>>>> alignments from GetAlignTerm(), the index of the source word is
>>>>>>> relative? To get the index in the source sentence, I?m assuming
>>>>>>> that I would need to get the starting position of the source words
>>>>>>> from CurrSourceWordsRange().GetStartPos() from current hypothesis
>>>>>>> and offset the source alignment index with that value?
>>>>>> yep. And to get the index in the target sentence, use
>>>>>> GetCurrTargetWordsRange().GetStartPos()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jasneet
>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 3:43 AM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com <mailto:hieuhoang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> please subscribe to the Moses mailing list before posting to it.
>>>>>>>> You can subscribe here:
>>>>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admin/moses-support <http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admin/moses-support>
>>>>>>>> To answer you question - the target phrase has a method called
>>>>>>>> GetAlignTerm()
>>>>>>>> that contains the alignment for terminals. This comes from the
>>>>>>>> phrase-table, and ultimately from the word alignment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>>>> Subject: Moses-support post from jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca <mailto:jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca> requires
>>>>>>>> approval
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:36:50 -0500
>>>>>>>> From: moses-support-owner@mit.edu <mailto:moses-support-owner@mit.edu>
>>>>>>>> To: moses-support-owner@mit.edu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
>>>>>>>> following mailing list posting:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> List: Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>>>>>> From: jasneet.sabharwal@sfu.ca
>>>>>>>> Subject: Getting alignments for current hypothesis in phrase based model
>>>>>>>> Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At your convenience, visit:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admindb/moses-support
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to approve or deny the request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <ForwardedMessage.eml><ForwardedMessage.eml>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Hieu Hoang
>>>>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu <http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hieu Hoang
>>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu <http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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