Moses-support Digest, Vol 119, Issue 45

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: differences between moses and moses2 output (Hieu Hoang)
2. Re: differences between moses and moses2 output (Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:58:29 +0100
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] differences between moses and moses2
output
To: Vito Mandorino <vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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great, thanks. Do you use the lexicalised reordering model, and is it
integrated into the phrase-table in Moses2?

There is latency in communicating with the server. As Moses2 is much faster
now, the client can't feed it fast enough. You should see that moses2
command line will max out the CPU, whereas the server won't. I'm thinking
of extending the server to processing multiple sentences at a time to speed
it up

Hieu Hoang
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 29 September 2016 at 14:49, Vito Mandorino <
vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com> wrote:

> Yes, here are some data:
>
> Average source sentence length: 29 tokens
> Phrase-table size, probingPT: 11G
> Phrase-table size, compact phrase-table: 2.1G
>
> Translation time Moses2 with 32 threads: 1m36.511s
> Translation time Moses with 32 threads: 6m14.248s
> Translation time Moses2 with 32 threads in server mode: 16m30.137s
> Translation time Moses with 32 threads in server mode: 62m33.208s
>
> Ram consumption during decoding: 4G for Moses2, 5G for Moses
>
> So Moses2 is 4 times faster, and 3 times faster in server mode.
>
> Do you know why in server mode the speed is so much slower with respect to
> batch mode, for both Moses and Moses2?
>
> Best regards,
> Vito
>
> 2016-09-28 18:52 GMT+02:00 Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>:
>
>> cool. do you have any indications of speed, especially when using
>> multiple threads? model sizes and average input sentence length are also
>> relevant.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *M**. Vito MANDORINO -- Chief Scientist*
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:59:17 +0100
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] differences between moses and moses2
output
To: Vito Mandorino <vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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ps. how big is your LM?

Hieu Hoang
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 29 September 2016 at 14:58, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com> wrote:

> great, thanks. Do you use the lexicalised reordering model, and is it
> integrated into the phrase-table in Moses2?
>
> There is latency in communicating with the server. As Moses2 is much
> faster now, the client can't feed it fast enough. You should see that
> moses2 command line will max out the CPU, whereas the server won't. I'm
> thinking of extending the server to processing multiple sentences at a time
> to speed it up
>
> Hieu Hoang
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 29 September 2016 at 14:49, Vito Mandorino <vito.mandorino@
> linguacustodia.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, here are some data:
>>
>> Average source sentence length: 29 tokens
>> Phrase-table size, probingPT: 11G
>> Phrase-table size, compact phrase-table: 2.1G
>>
>> Translation time Moses2 with 32 threads: 1m36.511s
>> Translation time Moses with 32 threads: 6m14.248s
>> Translation time Moses2 with 32 threads in server mode: 16m30.137s
>> Translation time Moses with 32 threads in server mode: 62m33.208s
>>
>> Ram consumption during decoding: 4G for Moses2, 5G for Moses
>>
>> So Moses2 is 4 times faster, and 3 times faster in server mode.
>>
>> Do you know why in server mode the speed is so much slower with respect
>> to batch mode, for both Moses and Moses2?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vito
>>
>> 2016-09-28 18:52 GMT+02:00 Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> cool. do you have any indications of speed, especially when using
>>> multiple threads? model sizes and average input sentence length are also
>>> relevant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *M**. Vito MANDORINO -- Chief Scientist*
>>
>>
>> [image: Description : Description : lingua_custodia_final full logo]
>>
>> *The Translation Trustee*
>>
>> *1, Place Charles de Gaulle, **78180 Montigny-le-Bretonneux*
>>
>> *Tel : +33 1 30 44 04 23 Mobile : +33 6 84 65 68 89
>> <%2B33%206%2084%2065%2068%2089>*
>>
>> *Email :* *vito.mandorino@linguacustodia.com
>> <massinissa.ahmim@linguacustodia.com>*
>>
>> *Website :*
>> *www.linguacustodia.finance <http://www.linguacustodia.com/>*
>>
>
>
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