Moses-support Digest, Vol 122, Issue 39

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Today's Topics:

1. Newbie questions (Ri ki)
2. Re: Newbie questions (Ri ki)
3. Re: Moses-support Digest, Vol 122, Issue 38 (Mike Ladwig)
4. Re: Moses-support Digest, Vol 122, Issue 38 (Hieu Hoang)
5. Re: Newbie questions (Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:36:30 -0500
From: Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] Newbie questions
To: Moses-support@mit.edu
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Hi,

I am new to Machine translation. I was doing some googling and stumbled
upon Moses.

I have the following questions:

1) What is the footprint of Moses(for one bilingual translation, say
english-spanish?(including all the necessary models and binaries)

2) Can Moses be run on a mobile device standalone i.e without going to
server at all? My aim is to create an Android app. Is it feasible at all to
run Moses as a standalone application on mobile devices?

3) Has anyone tried it? If so can you please provide some input?

4) If it is indeed possible to run Moses standalone on a Mobile
device(probably by pruning down the models to be able to fit on mobile
devices), what is the loss in accuracy when compared to the server version?
BLEU scores would help.

5) Are there any other alternatives to MOSES that I can run on mobile
devices?


Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:23:26 -0500
From: Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Newbie questions
To: Moses-support@mit.edu
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I forgot to add one other question:

6) What type of license does MOSES have? Apache? BSD? MIT? GPL?

Thanks again

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am new to Machine translation. I was doing some googling and stumbled
> upon Moses.
>
> I have the following questions:
>
> 1) What is the footprint of Moses(for one bilingual translation, say
> english-spanish?(including all the necessary models and binaries)
>
> 2) Can Moses be run on a mobile device standalone i.e without going to
> server at all? My aim is to create an Android app. Is it feasible at all to
> run Moses as a standalone application on mobile devices?
>
> 3) Has anyone tried it? If so can you please provide some input?
>
> 4) If it is indeed possible to run Moses standalone on a Mobile
> device(probably by pruning down the models to be able to fit on mobile
> devices), what is the loss in accuracy when compared to the server version?
> BLEU scores would help.
>
> 5) Are there any other alternatives to MOSES that I can run on mobile
> devices?
>
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:11:49 -0500
From: Mike Ladwig <mdladwig@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support Digest, Vol 122, Issue 38
To: Moses Support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Wanted to let everyone know I've gotten past my issues. The 2.x moses
didn't mind sentences ending in <wall/>, but 3.x disapproves and crashes
out. My multithread issue was just my test data causing crashes before the
"top" refresh rate let me see multiple threads bumping the cpu utilization
up. Moses2 is dramatically faster!

I am getting significantly (~20%) lower bleu scores than with 2.x but I
have a lot of testing before I will know why.

Thanks!
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:37:12 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support Digest, Vol 122, Issue 38
To: Mike Ladwig <mdladwig@gmail.com>
Cc: Moses Support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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glad to hear it!

Hieu Hoang
http://moses-smt.org/ <http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu>

On 28 December 2016 at 04:11, Mike Ladwig <mdladwig@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wanted to let everyone know I've gotten past my issues. The 2.x moses
> didn't mind sentences ending in <wall/>, but 3.x disapproves and crashes
> out.
>
if you have an example, please send it over. It should work


> My multithread issue was just my test data causing crashes before the
> "top" refresh rate let me see multiple threads bumping the cpu utilization
> up. Moses2 is dramatically faster!
>
> I am getting significantly (~20%) lower bleu scores than with 2.x but I
> have a lot of testing before I will know why.
>
Moses and Moses2 should give very similar results. Please let me know what
you find

>
> Thanks!
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:49:09 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Newbie questions
To: Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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If you are new to MT and Moses, please make sure you have read the website
and done the tutorials before asking too many questions:
http://www.statmt.org/moses/

Hieu Hoang
http://moses-smt.org/ <http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu>

On 27 December 2016 at 20:23, Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com> wrote:

> I forgot to add one other question:
>
> 6) What type of license does MOSES have? Apache? BSD? MIT? GPL?
>
See website

>
> Thanks again
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ri ki <mariasmo54@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new to Machine translation. I was doing some googling and stumbled
>> upon Moses.
>>
>> I have the following questions:
>>
>> 1) What is the footprint of Moses(for one bilingual translation, say
>> english-spanish?(including all the necessary models and binaries)
>>
> Total model sizes + around 500MB-1GB RAM

>
>> 2) Can Moses be run on a mobile device standalone i.e without going to
>> server at all? My aim is to create an Android app. Is it feasible at all to
>> run Moses as a standalone application on mobile devices?
>>
> It's been tried a few times, eg
https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder/tree/android-ui

>
>> 3) Has anyone tried it? If so can you please provide some input?
>>
> Ask yourself - so you put a decoder onto a phone. Then what? What value
can you add? Who is interested? Who will pay for your time?

>
>> 4) If it is indeed possible to run Moses standalone on a Mobile
>> device(probably by pruning down the models to be able to fit on mobile
>> devices), what is the loss in accuracy when compared to the server version?
>> BLEU scores would help.
>>
>> 5) Are there any other alternatives to MOSES that I can run on mobile
>> devices?
>>
> Let us know if you find out

>
>>
>> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>
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