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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Hardware specs and setup effort (Martin Wunderlich)
2. EMS dry-run flag? (Lane Schwartz)
3. Re: EMS dry-run flag? (Lane Schwartz)
4. Re: EMS dry-run flag? (Fred Blain)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 20:58:40 +0100
From: Martin Wunderlich <martin@wunderlich.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Hardware specs and setup effort
To: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Cc: moses-support <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Thanks very, Hieu. This is very helpful.


Kind regards,


Martin


Am 01.12.16 um 17:18 schrieb Hieu Hoang:
>
> Hieu Hoang
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 30 November 2016 at 20:39, Martin Wunderlich <martin@wunderlich.com
> <mailto:martin@wunderlich.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have already searched the documentation and list archives, but I
> haven't been able to retrieve the desired information that way. I have
> three basic questions:
> - What are the recommended and minimum hardware specs for running
> the MT
> engine?
>
> I would personally say the minimum is 8GB RAM and 2 cores. I used to
> run Moses on a laptop this way, mostly with Europarl-sized data.
> However, you may need to adjust some settings to make sure it runs as
> efficiently as possible.
>
> A more reasonable requirement is 32GB RAM and as many cores as you can
> afford.
>
> The training is mostly parallelizable. mgiza can use a maximum of 8
> cores. Phrase-extraction can use as many cores as required. The
> decoder scales up to ~16 cores. The new decoder (moses2) scales to
> much more cores.
>
> - How much effort is it to setup the system when starting from
> scratch?
>
> It takes me about an hour to set up everything from scratch, but then
> I've done this for 10yrs! It's best to sit with someone who's done it
> before to go thru it the 1st time.
>
> You can also use
> http://www.statmt.org/moses/RELEASE-3.0/vm/
> or some of the pre-packaged resources
> http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.Packages
>
> Make sure you've go thru the tutorial if you haven't already done so:
> http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.Baseline
>
> - And finally, how does it compare to other systems (ModernMT,
> Phrasal,
> Apertium) in terms of performance? (I know there is variety of factors
> influencing this, but maybe someone has experience with a comparative
> evaluation of these systems or could point me to some good resources)
>
>
> I don't know the other systems (I think MMT is a fork of Moses). If
> you find out more, please let me know
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 16:04:40 -0600
From: Lane Schwartz <dowobeha@gmail.com>
Subject: [Moses-support] EMS dry-run flag?
To: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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Is there a way to run EMS such that it outputs the scripts that it will
run, but does not actually execute them?

Thanks,
Lane
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 16:33:12 -0600
From: Lane Schwartz <dowobeha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] EMS dry-run flag?
To: Barry Haddow <bhaddow@staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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I tried that. That seems to do a sanity check, but I didn't see any scripts
created. Is it supposed to?

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Barry Haddow <bhaddow@staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Lane
>
> Just omit the -exec flag,
>
> cheers - Barry
>
> On 05/12/16 22:04, Lane Schwartz wrote:
>
> Is there a way to run EMS such that it outputs the scripts that it will
> run, but does not actually execute them?
>
> Thanks,
> Lane
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 22:36:16 +0000
From: Fred Blain <f.blain@sheffield.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] EMS dry-run flag?
To: Lane Schwartz <dowobeha@gmail.com>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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hi Lane,

if you omit the '-exec' in your call to experiment.perl, it will only
generate the required scripts without running anything. you will find the
scripts under the steps/ folder.

best,
--
Fred
www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~frederic
gpg-key: FC7C3BC0


On 05.12.16 at 16:04, Lane Schwartz wrote:
>Is there a way to run EMS such that it outputs the scripts that it will
>run, but does not actually execute them?
>
>Thanks,
>Lane

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