Moses-support Digest, Vol 85, Issue 56

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Word-to-word alignment when moses-parallel.pl is used
(Philipp Koehn)
2. Re: Word-to-word alignment when moses-parallel.pl is used
(Thomas Meyer)
3. Re: Word-to-word alignment when moses-parallel.pl is used
(Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:59:56 +0000
From: Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Word-to-word alignment when
moses-parallel.pl is used
To: Thomas Meyer <Thomas.Meyer@idiap.ch>
Cc: Hieu Hoang <hieu.hoang@ed.ac.uk>, "moses-support@mit.edu"
<moses-support@mit.edu>
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Hi Thomas,

in that case - can you share your modifications if they are of general
interest and check if there is a problem with the word alignment reporting?

-phi

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Thomas Meyer <Thomas.Meyer@idiap.ch> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I 'still' do and find it quite convenient. At least with release 1.0 and
> some modifications to moses-parallel.pl
>
> Thomas
>
>
> From: CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
> Sent: Friday, 29 November 2013 7:48 PM
> To: Hieu Hoang
> Cc: moses-support@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Word-to-word alignment when moses-parallel.pl
> is used
>
> Hi Hieu,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I have a question. Why not many people still use SGE
> to run Moses?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Best,
> Konstantinos
>
>
> 2013/11/29 Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
>>
>> I'm not sure if many people still uses Sun Grid Engine to run Moses. If
>> not, scripts like moses-parallel.pl may become outdated.
>>
>> I know at Edinburgh, we no longer use SGE. Instead we run our experiment
>> on 1 large multi-core machine. Most of moses has been re-engineered to be
>> multithreaded to take advantage of multicores
>>
>>
>> On 28 November 2013 10:25, CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>> <dinosaxon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Philipp,
>>>
>>> Thank you your your prompt reply. I have tried the option
>>> "alignment-output-file" for moses-parallel.pl but didn't use it as part of
>>> the decoder setting. But it didn't work. Each individual sub-job finished
>>> with an error status stating something the sub-job is untranslated.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time and consideration.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Konstantinos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/11/27 Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the script has an option "alignment-output-file" - did you try this?
>>>>
>>>> -phi
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>>>> <dinosaxon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you please give an example on how to output the word-to-word
>>>> > alignment
>>>> > during decoding when moses-parallel.pl is used?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Konstantinos
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Moses-support mailing list
>>>> > Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moses-support mailing list
>>> Moses-support@mit.edu
>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hieu Hoang
>> Research Associate
>> University of Edinburgh
>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>
>
>
>
> --
> CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:52:41 +0100
From: Thomas Meyer <Thomas.Meyer@idiap.ch>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Word-to-word alignment when
moses-parallel.pl is used
To: Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: Hieu Hoang <hieu.hoang@ed.ac.uk>, moses-support@mit.edu
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 03:46:05 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Word-to-word alignment when
moses-parallel.pl is used
To: CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos <dinosaxon@gmail.com>
Cc: "moses-support@mit.edu" <moses-support@mit.edu>
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One of the most important resource to make moses run fast is memory. The
more memort, the better.

So it is usually better to have 1 server with 10 cores and 40GB RAM, than
10 servers in a grid engine each with 1 core + 4GB RAM.

however, if SGE works for you, don't let me put you off


On 29 November 2013 18:42, CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos <dinosaxon@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Hieu,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I have a question. Why not many people still use
> SGE to run Moses?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Best,
> Konstantinos
>
>
> 2013/11/29 Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
>
>> I'm not sure if many people still uses Sun Grid Engine to run Moses. If
>> not, scripts like moses-parallel.pl may become outdated.
>>
>> I know at Edinburgh, we no longer use SGE. Instead we run our experiment
>> on 1 large multi-core machine. Most of moses has been re-engineered to be
>> multithreaded to take advantage of multicores
>>
>>
>> On 28 November 2013 10:25, CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos <
>> dinosaxon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Philipp,
>>>
>>> Thank you your your prompt reply. I have tried the option
>>> "alignment-output-file" for moses-parallel.pl but didn't use it as part
>>> of the decoder setting. But it didn't work. Each individual sub-job
>>> finished with an error status stating something the sub-job is untranslated.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time and consideration.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Konstantinos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/11/27 Philipp Koehn <pkoehn@inf.ed.ac.uk>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the script has an option "alignment-output-file" - did you try this?
>>>>
>>>> -phi
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>>>> <dinosaxon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you please give an example on how to output the word-to-word
>>>> alignment
>>>> > during decoding when moses-parallel.pl is used?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Konstantinos
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Moses-support mailing list
>>>> > Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moses-support mailing list
>>> Moses-support@mit.edu
>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hieu Hoang
>> Research Associate
>> University of Edinburgh
>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> CHATZITHEODOROU Konstantinos
>
>


--
Hieu Hoang
Research Associate
University of Edinburgh
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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