Moses-support Digest, Vol 99, Issue 18

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Moses-support post from hassaan84s@... requires approval
(Rico Sennrich)
2. Re: Moses-support post from hassaan84s@gmail.com requires
approval (Hassan Sajjad)
3. Re: Moses-support post from hassaan84s@gmail.com requires
approval (Hieu Hoang)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:30:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Rico Sennrich <rico.sennrich@gmx.ch>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support post from hassaan84s@...
requires approval
To: moses-support@mit.edu
Message-ID: <loom.20150108T142446-672@post.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@...> writes:

>
>
> you mean the github version of mgiza?
> ? https://github.com/moses-smt/mgiza
> Compared to what old version from where?
> I need to know what u ran and the corpus you ran. I'm not an expert
> on mgiza so my debugging is as good as yours in this areaOn 08/01/15

yes, please specify what version of mgiza you use and how you call it.

If you call mgiza through train-model.perl and your moses version is about 3
weeks old, you might be affected by this commit (which has since been
reverted): https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder/pull/88

even if not, we are unable to reproduce the problem without more information.

best wishes,
Rico



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:53:16 +0300
From: Hassan Sajjad <sajjad@ims.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support post from
hassaan84s@gmail.com requires approval
To: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Cc: Hieu Hoang <hieu.hoang@ed.ac.uk>, moses-support
<moses-support@mit.edu>
Message-ID:
<CAOiX71bYjseZgqVQ=pUV7GKFx99QDvXqKiYAO=KbqpW1CfUn8A@mail.gmail.com>
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I revert the changes here
https://github.com/lixiangnlp/mosesdecoder/commit/e1e14a91eeae253d2b17d3150cad56967c44d2f1

And everything is working fine now.

Hassan

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com> wrote:

> you mean the github version of mgiza?
> https://github.com/moses-smt/mgiza
> Compared to what old version from where?
>
> I need to know what u ran and the corpus you ran. I'm not an expert on
> mgiza so my debugging is as good as yours in this area
>
> On 08/01/15 12:52, Hassan Sajjad wrote:
>
> Sorry, I emailed from the wrong address.
>
> The error is consistent irrespective of the dataset. My old mgiza
> installation is producing the correct results. This problem is only with
> the recent build of mgiza.
>
> Hassan
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> please subscribe to the Moses mailing list before posting to it. You
>> can subscribe here:
>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>> What was the exact commands you ran? Can you try and run it on a small
>> corpus and make the corpus available for download so people can reproduce
>> the error
>>
>> On 8 January 2015 at 11:33, <moses-support-owner@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
>>> following mailing list posting:
>>>
>>> List: Moses-support@mit.edu
>>> From: hassaan84s@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Problem with newer version of mgiza
>>> Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list
>>>
>>> At your convenience, visit:
>>>
>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admindb/moses-support
>>>
>>> to approve or deny the request.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Hassan Sajjad <hassaan84s@gmail.com>
>>> To: moses-support <Moses-support@mit.edu>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:32:35 +0300
>>> Subject: Problem with newer version of mgiza
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There is an issue with the recent release of mgiza. It either crashes
>>> or produces wrong alignments which are either all words aligned to NULL or
>>> every source word aligned to every other target word.
>>>
>>> Following is the tail of STDOUT file where model4 cross-entropy is -nan.
>>>
>>> #peggingImprovements: 0
>>> A/D table contains 0 parameters.
>>> A/D table contains 0 parameters.
>>> p0_count is -nan and p1 is -nan; p0 is 0.999 p1: 0.001
>>> Model4: TRAIN CROSS-ENTROPY nan PERPLEXITY nan
>>> Model4: (6) TRAIN VITERBI CROSS-ENTROPY nan PERPLEXITY nan
>>>
>>> Model4 Viterbi Iteration : 6 took: 16 seconds
>>> 3333444 Training Finished at: Thu Jan 8 10:02:45 2015
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards;
>>> Hassan Sajjad
>>>
>>>
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>>> Cc:
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hieu Hoang
>> Research Associate
>> University of Edinburgh
>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>
>>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:04:52 +0000
From: Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Moses-support post from
hassaan84s@gmail.com requires approval
To: Hassan Sajjad <sajjad@ims.uni-stuttgart.de>
Cc: Hieu Hoang <hieu.hoang@ed.ac.uk>, moses-support
<moses-support@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4566E8C6-87D6-4406-8874-F6A028D68D68@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Sorry about that, my fault. I'll be extra careful about pulling these kinda changes in future

On 8 January 2015 13:53:16 GMT+00:00, Hassan Sajjad <sajjad@ims.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>I revert the changes here
>https://github.com/lixiangnlp/mosesdecoder/commit/e1e14a91eeae253d2b17d3150cad56967c44d2f1
>
>And everything is working fine now.
>
>Hassan
>
>On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Hieu Hoang <hieuhoang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you mean the github version of mgiza?
>> https://github.com/moses-smt/mgiza
>> Compared to what old version from where?
>>
>> I need to know what u ran and the corpus you ran. I'm not an expert
>on
>> mgiza so my debugging is as good as yours in this area
>>
>> On 08/01/15 12:52, Hassan Sajjad wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I emailed from the wrong address.
>>
>> The error is consistent irrespective of the dataset. My old mgiza
>> installation is producing the correct results. This problem is only
>with
>> the recent build of mgiza.
>>
>> Hassan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Hieu Hoang <Hieu.Hoang@ed.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>> please subscribe to the Moses mailing list before posting to it.
>You
>>> can subscribe here:
>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
>>> What was the exact commands you ran? Can you try and run it on a
>small
>>> corpus and make the corpus available for download so people can
>reproduce
>>> the error
>>>
>>> On 8 January 2015 at 11:33, <moses-support-owner@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
>>>> following mailing list posting:
>>>>
>>>> List: Moses-support@mit.edu
>>>> From: hassaan84s@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Problem with newer version of mgiza
>>>> Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list
>>>>
>>>> At your convenience, visit:
>>>>
>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/admindb/moses-support
>>>>
>>>> to approve or deny the request.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Hassan Sajjad <hassaan84s@gmail.com>
>>>> To: moses-support <Moses-support@mit.edu>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:32:35 +0300
>>>> Subject: Problem with newer version of mgiza
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There is an issue with the recent release of mgiza. It either
>crashes
>>>> or produces wrong alignments which are either all words aligned to
>NULL or
>>>> every source word aligned to every other target word.
>>>>
>>>> Following is the tail of STDOUT file where model4 cross-entropy is
>-nan.
>>>>
>>>> #peggingImprovements: 0
>>>> A/D table contains 0 parameters.
>>>> A/D table contains 0 parameters.
>>>> p0_count is -nan and p1 is -nan; p0 is 0.999 p1: 0.001
>>>> Model4: TRAIN CROSS-ENTROPY nan PERPLEXITY nan
>>>> Model4: (6) TRAIN VITERBI CROSS-ENTROPY nan PERPLEXITY nan
>>>>
>>>> Model4 Viterbi Iteration : 6 took: 16 seconds
>>>> 3333444 Training Finished at: Thu Jan 8 10:02:45 2015
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards;
>>>> Hassan Sajjad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: moses-support-request@mit.edu
>>>> To:
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date:
>>>> Subject: confirm 7e54fc726c82f4c78abd3597570eee93da45a113
>>>> If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
>>>> Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is
>>>> spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
>>>> with the list password in it, the message will be approved for
>posting
>>>> to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first
>line
>>>> of the body of the reply.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hieu Hoang
>>> Research Associate
>>> University of Edinburgh
>>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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