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Today's Topics:
1. syntax-based model - string-to-tree training
(Jose Casimiro Pereira)
2. Re: Repositioning of non-translatable lexemes (Achim Ruopp)
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:34:10 -0000
From: "Jose Casimiro Pereira" <casimiro@ipt.pt>
Subject: [Moses-support] syntax-based model - string-to-tree training
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Hi all,
I'm trying to train a syntax-based "string-to-tree" model with syntactic
annotation.
I read the "Syntax Tutorial" at
http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.SyntaxTutorial and I'm finding several
difficulties.
I'll appreciate your help, and answers, to these questions:
When training,
- what is supposed to use with "-hierarchical" parameter?
- I suppose that "-glue-grammar" parameter is to specify the location of
'glue-grammar' file. Ok, but how to obtain that file?
- In http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=moses.baseline there is a complete
explanation on how to train a phrase-based system.
There is any place where I can find similar tutorial to "string-to-tree"?
- In http://www.statmt.org/moses/download/sample-models.tgz is provided a
sample to "string-to-tree" model. The files provided, are the "final" ones,
after training. Where can I get the "source" files?
I ask this because I'm a litle confused with the type of files that I must
have to make a "string-to-tree 'system.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
j.casimiro
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:27:43 -0500
From: "Achim Ruopp" <achimru@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Repositioning of non-translatable lexemes
To: "'Sorin Slavescu'" <sorin.slavescu@oracle.com>,
<moses-support@mit.edu>
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Sorin,
Just to clarify: tags are taken care of by the M4Loc project or Christian
Buck's tags4moses similar to the paper you cite.
Placeholders are kind of orthogonal to this, as you point out (placeholders
and isolated tags are sometimes hard to distinguish in some document
formats).
Achim
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On Behalf Of Sorin Slavescu
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:40 AM
To: moses-support@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Repositioning of non-translatable lexemes
Thanks a lot folks. The placeholders functionality for numbers and dates is
something very interesting and it crossed my mind to use it for tags too but
unfortunately it doesn't link most formatting tags with the words it should.
I'll have a look at that paper Hieu mentioned
(http://www.mtsummit2013.info/files/proceedings/wptp2-joanis.pdf) that seems
to be more along the lines of what I've been trying to achieve.
Thanks,
Sorin
On 04/02/14 19:24, Achim Ruopp wrote:
> The new placeholder feature in Moses v2.1 is documented here:
> http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures#ntoc61
> This is for placeholders that have semantic meaning, e.g. numbers and
> other named entities rather than tags.
>
> Yes, this needs to be combined with tag handling and evaluated.
> Working on this now.
>
> Achim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moses-support-bounces@mit.edu
> [mailto:moses-support-bounces@mit.edu]
> On Behalf Of Tom Hoar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
> To: moses-support@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Repositioning of non-translatable lexemes
>
> Hieu, is the new XML-markup feature you and Achim developed a better
match?
> I can't find the reference.
>
> Tom.
>
>
>
> On 02/04/2014 11:25 PM, Barry Haddow wrote:
>> Hi Sorin
>>
>> You should check out m4loc (https://code.google.com/p/m4loc/), whose
>> features include "Word-alignment based tag reinsertion".
>>
>> There is also a web translation tool in Moses
>> (http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.WebTranslation) that handles
>> the re-insertion of html markup, but this has not been updated for a
>> while and may or may not work with the current version of Moses,
>>
>> cheers - Barry
>>
>> On 04/02/14 15:06, Sorin Slavescu wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is there any research, tools or libraries to address the issue of
>>> repositioning non-translatable content like tags, placeholders,
>>> entities into the translated sentence?
>>> For example if the source sentence is "This is a <b>test</b>" and
>>> the translation is "C'est un test" to reposition the <b> tag into
>>> the translation in the right spot to become "C'est un <b>test</b>"
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sorin
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